<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Future of SEO & AEO by Eli Schwartz]]></title><description><![CDATA[ As the author of Product-Led SEO and a consultant to some of the internet's largest companies, this newsletter is for people who own the growth number and need to know what search actually looks like in an AI world.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pW1g!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a8e2d1f-dd56-4fe9-828f-a9d4cd7ea573_271x271.png</url><title>The Future of SEO &amp; AEO by Eli Schwartz</title><link>https://www.productledseo.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 11:44:01 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.productledseo.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[productledseo@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[productledseo@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[productledseo@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[productledseo@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[SEO/AEO Planning for 2027]]></title><description><![CDATA[Planning is one of the most essential functions in any business because a plan drives hiring, budgeting, messaging, and every other aspect that makes a business successful, or not.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/its-time-to-plan-seo-for-2027</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/its-time-to-plan-seo-for-2027</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 21:20:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cC7-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F700a30cb-eb57-4cb1-9cdd-c41ace9b3cac_1600x612.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><em><strong>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by <a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Ahrefs</a></strong></em></p><ul><li><p><em>Paid subscribers can access my <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/total-addressable-market-calculator">TAM template</a>, which could help with your planning. </em></p></li><li><p><em>I have $200 <a href="https://intro.co/elischwartz">Intro</a> coupons available for the first 5 people who respond asking for one. Just reply to this email.</em></p></li></ul><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><div><hr></div><p>I recently sat down with a group of digital marketers to discuss 2027 SEO/AEO efforts, and I asked how many of them had a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/user-priority-roadmap">formal plan</a>&nbsp;for their SEO efforts over the past year. Not a single hand went up. I was completely surprised by that response, as the opposite of a plan is either winging it by just coming up with things to do or taking direction from someone else in the org who actually has a plan. </p><p>Planning is one of the most essential functions in any business because a plan drives hiring, <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-magic-of-seo-aeo-compounding">budgeting</a>, messaging, and every other aspect that makes a business successful, or not. Teams, employees, and even agencies that don&#8217;t build their own plans end up following someone else&#8217;s. The best way to ensure your priorities are considered- because your priorities and passions drive your happiness and success in a role- is to build a plan. </p><div><hr></div><p><em><strong>[Sponsored by <a href="https://ahrefs.com/free">Ahrefs</a>]</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Most &#8220;free&#8221; SEO tools are just a seven-day countdown in disguise, requiring a credit card before locking you out of your own data. </strong></em></p><p><em><strong><a href="https://ahrefs.com/free">Ahrefs Free</a> gives you permanent access to six essential marketing tools so your brand can get discovered across traditional search, AI, and social platforms without a ticking clock. </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> Sign up for your free-forever account today with no credit card required, and start building sustainable visibility on your own terms.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Check it out <a href="https://ahrefs.com/free">here</a>. </strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png" width="519" height="218.1510989010989" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/abe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:612,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:519,&quot;bytes&quot;:119402,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/i/220950627?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4u3b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabe04a24-5da1-4cf7-a5cd-177d7e912f03_1536x646.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><div><hr></div><p></p><p><strong>Planning is essential</strong></p><p>While some organizations' structures might not let you drive the plan, not having one guarantees you won't own it. I've seen many companies budget for and develop SEO plans (and now AEO) for a team that isn't in the room, but it's impossible to make the case to join that room without something new to add to the conversation. That is a plan.</p><p>In the closing quarter of the year, when many businesses plan the next year, now is the best time to develop and present your SEO plans for 2027. </p><ul><li><p>Want more headcount on your team in 2027? Now is when you ask.</p></li><li><p>Want to buy a new enterprise tool? Q4 is when it gets allocated.</p></li><li><p>Want to increase your learning and development budget so you can register as an early bird for conferences? Ask for it before the books close. </p></li></ul><p><strong>Budgets close before the year does</strong></p><p>In my experience, most SEO budget requests get denied because they aren't made during the formal planning cycle. If you show up in February of next year and ask for a new employee  just to manage AI visibility (spoiler alert: you  probably don&#8217;t need one), they'll almost certainly reject it because there isn&#8217;t a spare $150K sitting around waiting to be spent. If the business decides it&#8217;s a priority, then they would have to pull it from something else, which most likely has a team that doesn&#8217;t want to give it up.  They will fight to keep it. </p><p>If that same request were made right now, it would have a much higher chance of success because the CFO and budget committees are dividing up the spend pool, and those funds don&#8217;t need to be pulled from anywhere. These requests get easier later in the year once, hopefully, a company beats its annual projections and has more unallocated budget, or other teams haven&#8217;t used all their funds as planned to date. But why wait? Use this time now to think through next year and get your wishes granted. </p><p><strong>ROI forecasts are required</strong></p><p>While many teams I have met have very thin budget requests, if they have any at all, most are missing the critical component of a good budget request: the outcome. Many teams, not just SEO teams, march into a budget planning session with a wish list without saying what they will return to the company. The objective of a plan is to get the holders of a budget to make investments, not to give grants.  For that to happen, the request has to include an <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-roi-is-more-than-just-revenue">ROI</a>.</p><p>ROI is one of those things that SEO teams have had the hardest time ever getting right, and for most of the past two decades it didn&#8217;t matter because even without a clear line of sight from search to conversion, it was plainly obvious that the revenue earned in aggregate by channels that were considered to be search was orders of magnitude larger than the spend on the channel. </p><p>That changed over the last three years, when traffic suddenly started shifting away from organic channels because of the triple whammy of Google algorithm updates, AI Overviews, and AI chatbots. I still believe organic <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-drives-visibility-in-ai-agent">channels are as profitable</a> as ever if you use more proxies (see this post), but for a leadership team that has not been sold, it definitely looks dire. </p><p>The answer to this is to build a logical ROI plan. I am a big fan of using <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/forecasting-seo-with-total-addressable">TAM </a>as a forecasting method because it doesn&#8217;t require a perfect line of sight to conversion; it maps the journey and forecasts success without needing attribution. This lets you fund other marketing channels without a perfect last-click model. </p><p>Also, now is the time to adjust your reporting to show the impact of AI traffic using proxies, so you can more easily defend your efforts next year. You will be in quite the bind if you budget and plan based on <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/how-to-forecast-seoaeo-growth-with">TAM</a> but then still get measured on last click. </p><p><strong>What the plan needs to say</strong></p><p>A plan is not a forty-slide deck full of keyword volumes and competitor screenshots; that&#8217;s how you lose your audience. What works is a short, three- to five-page document that says what you will build, what it will cost, when you will do the work (broken down by quarter), and what the business should expect to see at the end of each quarter.</p><p><em>(I am building a tool that generates presentations for roadmap planning; see more information at the bottom of this email.)</em></p><p>Planning for the whole year, not just quarters, matters because you might put in the effort in Q1, but the results don&#8217;t show up until Q4. SEO/AEO are not instant successes. You need to make clear that these aren&#8217;t open-ended investments, but they are also not performance marketing type of efforts where the results happen in the same quarter.  Being held to a schedule feels risky, but it is what makes this an investment, not a gift. If you are the CMO on the receiving end of one of these plans, use this checklist for an SEO plan: a cost, a date, and an outcome for every bet, or send it back.</p><p><strong>Don&#8217;t overshoot</strong></p><p>Pick three or four bets and stop there. Every extra initiative does the opposite of what you intend. It dilutes your focus and makes the plan harder to sell. Say you propose rebuilding a product category and expect it to drive a specific number of qualified leads by the end of the year; that plan can be clearly judged on its merits, while a list of ideas can&#8217;t.</p><p>Your goal isn&#8217;t to solve everything; you want to complete these initiatives, and you need more than budget to get others to support you. This plan forces a conversation with the teams you depend on. SEO plans fail more often from missing engineering time than from bad strategy, because the in-house SEO owns the outcome but has no authority over the engineers and product managers who control the inputs. </p><p><strong>The plan is your promotion case</strong></p><p>A plan is your promotion case for this coming promotion cycle, but even if you aren&#8217;t so fortunate, it becomes your record for the next one. You get a chance to <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-seo-talent-shortage-is-only-going">show leadership</a> by developing a plan, managing toward it, and then meeting it.  The person who walks into planning season with an outline of what will happen is the person who gets asked what they would do with more people, a larger scope, or a seat at the leadership table.</p><p>You may not need a plan for your boss; I hope you do, but if you don&#8217;t, you should still have an outline of what you hope to get done in 2027 and work towards that goal. SEO and its AI byproducts are important enough that you shouldn&#8217;t just be winging it. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Refer a friend&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post"><span>Refer a friend</span></a></p><p></p><div><hr></div><p><em>I am building a suite of tools to help SEO teams and need beta testers. The first tool will build a roadmap pitch for budget, and I'm looking for beta testers. 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Let&#8217;s not repeat the mistakes.*</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>We&#8217;ve spent 20 years learning what happens when link building becomes a race to the bottom. Yet somehow, we&#8217;re watching the same thing happen with AI citations. Automated Reddit posts, low-quality listicles, and placements on websites nobody actually reads.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>The funny thing is, we have no shortage of tools telling us where brands are missing citations. But who&#8217;s actually getting them? SEO points to PR, PR points to the agency, and the agency points back to the client. Everyone agrees it&#8217;s important. Nobody owns it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>That&#8217;s why the team behind LLMNTS built the service in the first place. They couldn&#8217;t find anyone doing it the way they thought it should be done.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>LLMNTS.ai works with some of the world&#8217;s leading publishers to get brands into the articles and conversations that shape AI answers. It&#8217;s the part of AEO everyone talks about, but few actually execute.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>*Worth a look if you&#8217;re serious about AI visibility beyond the dashboards.*</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Check out <a href="https://llmnts.ai/?utm_source=pls">LLMNTS</a> &#8594;</strong></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">The Future of SEO &amp; AEO by Eli Schwartz is a reader-supported publication. 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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Stop being afraid of AI by using F.E.A.R.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Fear is a common concern in marketing, and I hear it from just about everyone I meet. Fear that AI will replace our jobs. Fear that our employers and clients won&#8217;t need us anymore.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/stop-being-afraid-of-ai-by-using</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/stop-being-afraid-of-ai-by-using</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 20:38:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gixc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F326da76a-a5ae-4440-93fe-8145d432caff_956x416.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by <a href="https://foundationinc.co/?utm_source=eli&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=newsletter_sponsor">Foundation</a> and <a href="https://ai-visibility-index.semrush.com/downloads/your-money-your-life?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=influencers&amp;utm_campaign=socialorganic_partners_futureofseo&amp;utm_term=social_organic&amp;utm_content=elischwartz_october01">Semrush</a></strong></em></p><ul><li><p><em>Paid subscribers can download this audit template for <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/jobs-to-be-done-for-seo-audit">Jobs to Be Done</a> to ensure that their AEO efforts are aligned with users, not algorithms</em></p></li><li><p><em>I will be discounting my <a href="https://intro.co/elischwartz">Intro</a> calls next for one day only; message me if you want to be notified when that happens</em></p><p></p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Refer a friend&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post"><span>Refer a friend</span></a></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The SEO that works now isn't better writing]]></title><description><![CDATA[Any AI model can now produce on demand, and many are confused about why rankings that held for years have suddenly evaporated.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-seo-that-works-now-isnt-better</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-seo-that-works-now-isnt-better</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2026 06:59:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a4EB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04b027ae-47c2-45b5-9598-35122a102711_1308x440.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by <a href="https://hubs.la/Q04s08F20">Stacker</a> and <a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Ahrefs.</a></strong></em></p><ul><li><p><em><strong>Paid subscribers can download this <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/proprietary-data-audit">dashboard </a>to analyze their proprietary data strategy</strong></em></p></li><li><p><em><strong><span>[Sponsored by Dofollow] Your buyers are asking AI what to consider. Visibility+ from </span><a href="https://trydofollow.io/futureofseo"><span>dofollow.com</span></a><span> helps B2B SaaS brands build the authority necessary to improve visibility across AI answers and traditional sear&#8230;</span></strong></em></p></li></ul>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[HTML sitemaps: The SEO shortcut you need to try]]></title><description><![CDATA[Build an HTML sitemap on a plain HTML page]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-seo-shortcut-you-need-to-do-today</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-seo-shortcut-you-need-to-do-today</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 19:31:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KPx6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27a9cb78-dea3-433f-aabe-d0313a4bcfd9_1876x1418.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by <a href="https://realityindex.airops.com/?utm_source=eli-schwartz&amp;utm_medium=paid-newsletter&amp;utm_campaign=GLOBAL_en_CMO-Survey_Q3-2026">Airops</a></em></p><ul><li><p><em><span>[sponsored]Your competitors are beating you at citations in AI. Visibility+ from </span><a href="https://trydofollow.io/futureofseo"><span>dofollow.com</span></a><span> helps brands improve visibility across AI answers AND traditional search. </span><a href="https://trydofollow.io/futureofseo"><span>See where competitors are ahead</span></a></em></p></li><li><p><em>Paid subscribers can <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/html-sitemap-creator">download</a> this tool to build an HTML sitemap</em></p></li><li><p><em>Refer friends as subscribers and earn rewards</em></p><p></p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Refer a friend&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post"><span>Refer a friend</span></a></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SEO / AEO could ruin brand marketing]]></title><description><![CDATA[When marketers, agencies, and AEO tools put a claim on any website today, those don&#8217;t just have the ability to influence an invisible algorithm; they are also fodder to be restated in an LLM output]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-aeo-could-ruin-brand-marketing</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-aeo-could-ruin-brand-marketing</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 14:23:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZjPf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0952ab7c-7ffb-4404-8c8a-ce1ed7ba9633_948x670.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><em>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by <a href="https://ai-visibility-index.semrush.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=influencers&amp;utm_campaign=socialorganic_partners_futureofseo&amp;utm_term=social_organic&amp;utm_content=elischwartz_september10">Semrush</a></em></p><ul><li><p><em>Paid subscribers can download this<a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/agency-evaluation-template"> </a><a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/marketing-claims-test-for-pr">claims audit template </a>that accompanies this post.</em></p></li><li><p><em>I will be speaking at the <a href="https://shenzhenseoconference.com/">Shenzhen SEO conference</a> next week; reply if you will be there.</em></p></li><li><p><em>Refer friends as subscribers and earn rewards</em></p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Refer a friend&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/leaderboard?&amp;utm_source=post"><span>Refer a friend</span></a></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Should there be AEO agencies?]]></title><description><![CDATA[I see a lot of SEO ideas and reports; most SEO firms are currently lying to their clients.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/should-seo-agencies-still-exist</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/should-seo-agencies-still-exist</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 22:02:26 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XOhz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F440b88b2-e12a-498d-bb59-b5e68d733b51_2124x884.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by </span><a href="https://stacker.com/request-a-demo-special-offer?utm_campaign=50454852-Q3-TL&amp;utm_source=eli-schwartz&amp;utm_medium=referral">Stacker</a><span> and </span><a href="https://ai-visibility-index.semrush.com/downloads/chatgpt-vs-ai-mode?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=influencers&amp;utm_campaign=socialorganic_partners_futureofseo&amp;utm_term=social_organic&amp;utm_content=elischwartz_september03">Semrush</a></em></p><ul><li><p><em>Paid subscribers can download this<a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/agency-evaluation-template"> template</a> to evaluate agency proposals</em></p></li><li><p><em>I will be speaking at the  <a href="https://shenzhenseoconference.com/">Shenzhen SEO conference</a> in two weeks; reply if you will be there. </em></p></li><li><p><em>Refer friends as subscribers and earn rewards: a free month of a paid subscription, a free Product-Led SEO audiobook ($19 value), or&#8230;</em></p></li></ul>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reddit should stop feeding Google]]></title><description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know whether to believe the recent news about Reddit&#8217;s decline in visibility in ChatGPT, nor does it likely matter.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/reddit-should-stop-feeding-google</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/reddit-should-stop-feeding-google</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 22:00:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lRSP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25bd7c2f-4da9-49f9-91c5-d0cea89169e2_1720x696.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by </span><a href="https://stacker.com/request-a-demo-special-offer?utm_campaign=50454852-Q3-TL&amp;utm_source=eli-schwartz&amp;utm_medium=referral">Stacker</a><span> and </span><a href="https://ahrefs.com/free">Ahrefs</a></em></p><ul><li><p><em>Think beyond just the top Subreddits. <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/top-subreddits">All subscribers can download a list of the top 100 Subreddits; paid subscribers can download the top 10,000.</a></em></p></li><li><p><em><span>See the Stacker offer at the end of the email for a </span><a href="http://hubs.la/Q04s08F20">free PR story just for booking a meeting</a></em></p><p></p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></li></ul>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Top Subreddits]]></title><description><![CDATA[Marketers should invest in building communities on Reddit because the platform serves as the internet's front page where high-intent consumers actively research and validate purchasing decisions.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/top-subreddits</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/top-subreddits</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2026 22:42:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xvRC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F362131c3-b578-4d48-ae82-757bb83ac2a0_930x1138.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketers should invest in building communities on Reddit because the platform serves as the internet's front page where high-intent consumers actively research and validate purchasing decisions.  Reddit is organized around deeply engaged, topic-specific subreddits where users demand transparency and genuine expertise. By consistently contributing value-driven insights rather than engaging in overt self-promotion, brands can earn long-term organic trust and influence the very discussions that drive loyal customers. </p><p>Here&#8217;s a list of the top 100 Subreddits. 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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Brand keyword dashboard for AEO metrics]]></title><description><![CDATA[This tool pulls your branded query data from Search Console automatically and pairs it with Google Trends data you paste in, so you can see whether branded demand is actually moving and by how much.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/brand-keyword-dashboard-for-aeo-metrics</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/brand-keyword-dashboard-for-aeo-metrics</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 10:55:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KqnJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71d6603c-629b-4844-bd70-5a24669e2db5_1136x944.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This tool pulls your branded query data from Search Console automatically and pairs it with Google Trends data you paste in, so you can see whether branded demand is actually moving and by how much. 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Nothing here requires a paid Google Workspace plan. The whole thing runs on a free Google account.</p><h2>Step 1: Convert the file to Google Sheets</h2><p>Upload the <code>Brand_Search_Trends_Tracker.xlsx</code> (linked below) to Google Drive. Double-click it, then in the preview screen, choose <strong>Open with &gt; Google Sheets</strong>. This creates an editable Sheets copy. Apps Script, which powers the automated Search Console pull, only runs inside native Google Sheets, not inside an Excel file sitting in Drive unconverted.</p><p></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SEO and AEO is an effort in compounding growth]]></title><description><![CDATA[Nothing about SEO moves at the speed of a single input.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-magic-of-seo-aeo-compounding</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-magic-of-seo-aeo-compounding</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 14:15:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ht1Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a7b82ba-9134-4f49-9d12-0d1f84d383dc_1416x1358.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by </span><a href="https://foundationinc.co/?utm_source=eli">Foundation Marketing</a><span> and </span><a href="https://datos.live/report/state-of-search-q2-2026/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=influencers&amp;utm_campaign=socialorganic_partners_futureofseo&amp;utm_term=social_organic&amp;utm_content=elischwartz_august06">Semrush</a></em></p><ul><li><p><em>{Sponsored} Are you wondering whether your agency is ripping you off with Reddit? <a href="https://cal.com/julia-gardiner-no1zkg/30min">Book a call</a>  with Foundation Marketing and get a free audit</em></p></li><li><p><em>Paid subscribers can download this calculator to <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-compounding-calculator">chart compounding efforts</a></em></p></li><li><p><em>If you are an agency or tool interested in sponsoring this newsletter&#8230;</em></p></li></ul>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The easiest SEO links you can get]]></title><description><![CDATA[Links that are the easiest to acquire and carry an outsized impact on everything else you are trying to do in SEO: internal linking.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/are-you-neglecting-your-internal</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/are-you-neglecting-your-internal</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 16:44:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AJEK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2fefac9-54f1-477a-9deb-f802b7b37641_1464x884.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><em><strong><span>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by </span><a href="https://foundationinc.co/?utm_source=eli">Foundation Marketing</a><span> and </span><a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Ahrefs<span>.</span></a></strong></em></p><ul><li><p><em><strong><span>Paid subscribers can download this Python crawler, which calculates the&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/click-depth-crawler"><span>click depth of your pages</span></a><span>, and check out this </span><a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/how-to-build-an-seo-roadmap"><span>post</span></a><span> for my roadmap template.</span></strong><span> </span></em></p><p></p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Much of SEO has changed with the introduction of AI, and link building has not survived the transition unscathed either. I believe most of what passed for link building over the last decade was already obsolete before AI-assisted search showed up. A lot of link building was built around manufacturing signals rather than earning them, and over the last decade, Google has significantly improved its ability to detect and ignore these sorts of links. </p><div><hr></div><p><em><strong><span>[Sponsored by </span><a href="https://ahrefs.com/"><span>Ahrefs</span></a><span>]</span></strong></em></p><p><em><strong><a href="https://ahrefs.com/blog/new-features-may-2026/"><span>Another great new feature launch from Ahrefs.</span></a><br><br><span>"Ask Ahrefs" is now live and can be accessed on any Ahrefs page. </span><br><br><span>It reads the page you're on and your whole workspace. So you can ask it to: &#8594; summarize what's on screen &#8594; compare your site to a competitor &#8594; explain why your mentions spiked last week. </span><br><br><span>It's an agent, not a chatbot. It runs its own API queries, navigates the tools, and applies filters to get the data instead of asking you to.</span><br><br><span>Free for Ahrefs users while in beta.</span></strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFpR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09d39d02-443d-4f3c-9a1b-7d8c6c4662ad_1324x1200.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFpR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09d39d02-443d-4f3c-9a1b-7d8c6c4662ad_1324x1200.png 424w, 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What I want to go deep on right now is the category of links that are the easiest to acquire and carry an outsized impact on everything else you are trying to do in SEO: internal linking.</p><p><strong>What are internal links?</strong></p><p>Internal links are internal references to pages within your site. Writers insert them to get people to read more content, but search engines understand them with the same algorithms they use to understand external links to your site. Instead of building authority from other sites, they build topical authority within a site. They are significantly easier to manipulate and obtain than external links.</p><p>Nobody has to negotiate a rate with an outreach agency working off a spreadsheet of domains and hope the receiver on the other end actually responds. You already own every one of these links, and most companies are sitting on far more unused authority than they realize.</p><p><a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/the-role-of-technical-seo-in-aeo">Technical SEO</a> has diminishing value in improving a site&#8217;s traffic because even a site with terrible structure can do well as the underlying AI in the algorithms will unwind bad best practices. Internal linking is the exception. I have never worked with a large website that couldn&#8217;t benefit from better internal linking.</p><p>Two reasons internal linking matters</p><ol><li><p>The PageRank logic: every page is weighted by every page linking into it, and those votes are then logarithmically counted to pass authority to a new page. Therefore, a link from your homepage carries more weight than a link buried eight pages deep.</p><p></p></li><li><p>Internal links are how content gets discovered in the first place, by crawlers and now by AI systems trying to understand what your site knows. A page with zero internal links pointing to it is an orphan, and orphaned pages are functionally dead even when they're indexed, because nothing on your own site vouches for them. If nothing on your own site vouches for a page, don't expect an AI answer engine to go find it and vouch for it either. A page can be indexed and functionally invisible at the same time. <br><br>Click depth is critical because a  page that takes five clicks from the homepage to will be crawled far less frequently than one that is closer to the homepage.   My opinion is that any important pages should live three clicks or fewer from the homepage.</p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AJEK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2fefac9-54f1-477a-9deb-f802b7b37641_1464x884.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AJEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2fefac9-54f1-477a-9deb-f802b7b37641_1464x884.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AJEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2fefac9-54f1-477a-9deb-f802b7b37641_1464x884.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p><strong>How to fix internal linking</strong></p><p>Generally, new content constantly links back to old content because you reference the foundational piece, you cite the earlier post, you build on what already exists. The reverse almost never happens. Old content doesn&#8217;t get updated to link forward into new content, because that requires someone to remember the old page exists and go do the work.  Therefore, authority flows backward in time, while everything published this year sits there starving for the links that would actually help it rank or get cited.</p><p>Treat <a href="https://www.productledseo.com/p/stop-writing-blog-posts-and-calling">every page</a> as a candidate for cross-linking. This must be built into the publishing workflow to update old pages, or ideally build dynamic logic that automatically inserts links into older pages on a schedule so there&#8217;s less manual work to do. </p><p><strong>Context doesn&#8217;t matter as much as you think</strong></p><p>Too many teams aim for context in internal links, which isn&#8217;t necessarily bad, but it misses the whole magical point of these links: driving more discovery. Focusing only on contextual relevance creates a biased feedback loop because your most popular topic already has the most content. </p><p>Popular links to popular. Niche stays niche forever, because the internal linking logic never gives it a shot.</p><p>To fix it, break it on purpose by ignoring context. Inject randomness into the linking logic, and I mean structurally engineered randomness. You can have dynamic logic on a page that inserts new content in a link box, but your logic must link to random pages. </p><p>This is obviously not the best editorial link strategy when a page about pricing suddenly links to a product launch blog post from eighteen months ago, but it will work. This needs to be truly random, so every page has a chance to be exposed to internal links.  </p><p>A massive (millions of pages) site I worked on that did this saw crawl, indexation, and most importantly, traffic improve dramatically within weeks. Pages that had sat flat for over a year with zero internal links pointing to them got crawled again within days of turning on random link injection, and a meaningful chunk of them doubled organic traffic shortly after, without a single word of the content changing. </p><p><strong>Server-side only</strong></p><p>Ideally, any logic you use to build these links happens on the server because otherwise your links could be invisible to search engines. If your site runs on any JavaScript framework that renders links client-side after the page loads, it&#8217;s highly possible that these links will be invisible to crawlers and AI systems. Minimize this risk by making the links render server-side. </p><p><strong>How you know it&#8217;s working</strong></p><p>Once your new link algorithms are in place, pull crawl stats from any log analysis tool and run a crawl to compare your orphan page count before and after.  If traffic to old pages starts moving without anyone touching the content itself, you can chalk this up to your linking efforts.  Internal linking is the one thing in SEO that you can never invest too much in, so if you are looking for some low-hanging fruit, go pick this one. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.productledseo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p><em><strong><span>[Sponsored by </span><a href="https://foundationinc.co/?utm_source=eli">Foundation Marketing</a><span>]</span></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>94% of B2B buyers now use AI when researching software. So who&#8217;s AI citing when they look for tools like yours?</strong></em><strong><br><br><br></strong><em><strong>Well, it&#8217;s usually not you. We analyzed 57 million citations across 50 brands: only 2.2% of citations on early-stage buyer queries pointed to brand-owned domains.</strong></em><strong><br><br></strong><em><strong>Your SEO, PR, and social don&#8217;t fix this on their own. And we&#8217;ve learnt over the last 12 months that getting cited by AI is its own discipline. The Hidden Selection Phase report shows where AI pulls its answers from, and what separates the brands it cites from the ones it skips.</strong></em><strong><br><br></strong><em><strong><a href="https://content.foundationinc.co/hidden-selection-phase-report-lp/?ut_source=eli">Download the report</a></strong></em><strong><br><br></strong><em><strong><span>Getting itchy and instead want to see where your brand stands? </span><a href="https://cal.com/julia-gardiner-no1zkg/30min">Book a call</a><span> for a free content audit with the leading AI visibility agency for B2B.</span></strong></em></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[You need to build an SEO roadmap]]></title><description><![CDATA[Most SEO teams I talk to don&#8217;t have a roadmap; they have a list of things they want to do to improve SEO.]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/how-to-build-an-seo-roadmap</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/how-to-build-an-seo-roadmap</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 18:03:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HhvT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4a85f19-ae0a-4677-b31e-9badf001effc_1276x702.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>This week&#8217;s newsletter is sponsored by <a href="https://foundationinc.co/?utm_source=eli">Foundation Marketing</a> and <a href="https://www.airops.com/lp/the-state-of-aeo-report?utm_source=eli-schwartz&amp;utm_medium=paid-newsletter&amp;utm_campaign=NA_en_Ebook_State-Of-AEO-2026_Q3-2026">Airops</a>. </strong></em></p><ul><li><p><em><strong>{sponsored} <a href="https://trydofollow.io/futureofseo">dofollow.com</a> helps leading SaaS brands win visibility across Google and AI search. 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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SEO compounding calculator]]></title><description><![CDATA[Use this calculator to chart the compounding of your SEO and AEO efforts]]></description><link>https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-compounding-calculator</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.productledseo.com/p/seo-compounding-calculator</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Schwartz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:35:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ht1Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a7b82ba-9134-4f49-9d12-0d1f84d383dc_1416x1358.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use this calculator to chart the compounding of your SEO and AEO efforts</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Anything 3.7 or newer works fine.</p><p>Next, install the two libraries the script depends on:</p><pre><code><code>pip install requests beautifulsoup4</code></code></pre><p>If that fails with a permissions error, add <code>--user</code> to the end of the command, or set up a virtual environment first with <code>python3 -m venv venv</code> followed by <code>source venv/bin/activate</code> on Mac or Linux, or <code>venv\Scripts\activate</code> on Windows, then run the pip install again inside that environment.</p><p>Save the script file somewhere accessible, then run it against the site in question:</p><pre><code><code>python3 click_depth_crawler.py https://yoursite.com</code></code></pre><p>That&#8217;s the whole deployment. It runs locally on whatever machine you launch it from, whether that&#8217;s a laptop or a server you SSH into, and it reaches out to the target site over normal HTTP requests the same way a browser would, so there&#8217;s nothing to install on the site&#8217;s side and no code to add to the site itself.</p><p>A few flags matter depending on the size of the site. For anything with more than a couple thousand pages, raise the ceiling before running: <code>python3 click_depth_crawler.py https://yoursite.com --max-pages 10000</code>. If the crawl feels too slow, the delay between requests can be lowered with <code>--delay 0.1</code>, though pushing it too aggressively risks tripping rate limiting or bot protection on the target site, so raise it in small increments rather than dropping straight to zero. 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